Curse

Heloniar · Oct 03, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

I just had a thought, what if Anet were to pick a skill in the primary attribute line of each profession and buff it to the point where each class is desirable for that specific skill for elite areas, what would happen?
the skills could be like the following
Monk could be Divine Intervention- 5 energy 15 sec recharge, 40% dam reduction from critical hits and 20% dam reduction from attacks lasting 10 seconds IN elite Areas only( pretend buff)

paragon ~10% dam increase, and 20% dam reduction in elite areas party wide buff synergizes with TNTF

etc..

zelgadissan · Oct 03, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Any class is usable in elite areas because elite areas really aren't that hard. The four people in my guild who regularly do stuff together have gone through every elite area - we're a mesmer, necro, dervish, and ranger. You'll notice not one member of the holy trinity, but it still gets done. Major lolz at buffing There's Nothing to Fear, btw.

/notsigned in case this gets moved to Sardelac.

Covah · Oct 03, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

There are only 8 party slots (other then deep and urgoz) there are more professions, not everyone can win. People also don't like forming balanced groups so it wouldn't happen even if it was implamented.

Quaker · Oct 03, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Um, .. I didn't know that there was any problem with any particular class in any particular area. You may find that some classes/builds work better in certain areas, but any class can be used with the proper build and/or group.

Heloniar · Oct 03, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

the skill were supposed to be an 3rd skill that went with SY, TNTF, replacing standard of honor or GFTE..

but it wasn't a suggestion. I KNOW that it aint happening.
I tried to get a pug for a full UWSC but I got denied because i wanted my para to have the grenth statue.

MisterB · Oct 03, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

It makes more sense to design the elite areas better, instead of throwing in even more overpowered skills into primary profession attributes. The best option for forming groups is friends and guildies. You can run any profession if you coordinate.

edit: You were denied because it was a speed clear, and Paragons don't really fit in that role at all. You could borrow someone's heroes, and do UW 1 + 6 on your Paragon, or just find one other person who wants to do all the quests.

germanturkey · Oct 03, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

paragons don't really need another 20% damage reduction...

Covah · Oct 03, 2008, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heloniar

I tried to get a pug for a full UWSC but I got denied because i wanted my para to have the grenth statue.

All your characters will get the statues when the HoM becomes account wide. Just do it on another character.

Heloniar · Oct 03, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

well, I had this vision of leading my guildies in, and they see the text and amazing them that i did all this on one character.. :P

_Nihilist_ · Oct 03, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

edit: You were denied because it was a speed clear, and Paragons don't really fit in that role at all.

^
Here's your answer as to why you couldn't get into a UWSC. UWSC's do not use Para's. They use Sin's and Ele's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

just find one other person who wants to do all the quests.

^
Here's what you do about it.

If I can clear UW with my brother and 6 Heroes using a Godmode Dslash Warrior, you can clear it with 1 other player and 6 Heroes using an Imbagon.

You aren't going to SC it (15 minutes, FTW), but if you want your Statue, go get your Statue. Lyssa's Luck be with you.

slowerpoke · Oct 03, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

professions are like skills
theres a selection of them, only a limited number can be taken at once
bring what best fits the current situation
some are better in certain areas

Heloniar · Oct 03, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

maybe I weren't clear, I consider SCs as like taking under 3 hours to finish with any other profession, weren't really trying for 15 minutes :P

Sharkman · Oct 03, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44

You had your chance with [Ursan Blessing]...You see where that went.

Heloniar · Oct 03, 2008, 10:52 PM // 22:52

well, my para can create a artifical UB enviroment for 7 other players.. yet, it's not accepted?!

Nessar · Oct 03, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharkman

You had your chance with [Ursan Blessing]...You see where that went.

/winthread

Ursan allowed it, people QQ'd, and now you have this :P

DarkFlame · Oct 04, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharkman

You had your chance with [Ursan Blessing]...You see where that went.

^ Agreed. All this does is encourage players to have Anet choose their skills for them rather then learning to make their own builds that work in teams. It cripples players, more then helps.

Luminarus · Oct 04, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Ursan was around, people complained it was broken.

Ursan gets nefed, people complain they cant use it.

Anet just cant win.

Joe Fierce · Oct 04, 2008, 12:39 AM // 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Ursan was around, people complained it was broken.

Ursan gets nefed, people complain they cant use it.

Anet just cant win.

it's because people honestly don't know what they want and should stop pretending like they do

said this the instant ursan got nerfed, i hated it as well, it devalues alot of things, but i still said "watch in one week yall be QQing about no one doing elites anymore or your class not being included"

and as for the op, just start running with people that are smart enough to realize that the trinity or gimmick isn't always the greatest and lets you run what you wish to run.

and as for those complaining about the old school trinity that are rangers, i'm primary ranger, i still got into trinity groups, it's called tanking, and rangers do it the best...but the days of crappy tank and spank are gone thank god, so I don't have to do that anymore.

Better to burn out · Oct 04, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heloniar

maybe I weren't clear, I consider SCs as like taking under 3 hours to finish with any other profession, weren't really trying for 15 minutes :P

Under 3 hours? thats alot of time. I'm sure you could do that with almost any mix of profs pretty ezily. just get people you know.

Heloniar · Oct 04, 2008, 01:34 AM // 01:34

please keep this topic on track, it's not about QQing about ursan.

thanks!

we tried and failed... had a eternal bal's derv, nuker, SS, a noob tank *sigh* and a terra tank that left. had a HB monk, and hero HB monk.
made it to chaos plains reaper and wiped, partly ebcause the noob grabbed restore mouments before we could clear all mouments of monsters.